I have a Nistune for my S13, cost me $450 to get my ECU modified and for the software. But it's a hell of a lot cheaper then buying a PowerFC or a Haltec...
I have a USB lead I plug into my ECU, manage it all from there on my X23 laptop. In regards to the Telstar, I'm assuming yours is an 80's model, which happens to be akin to the Mazda 626 family. Using the Mazda 2L FE motor, it came in 3 varients
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The 2.0 L (1998 cm³) FE was very different with a square 86 mm bore and stroke. It was an 8-valve SOHC engine for front-wheel drive and rear wheel drive pickup use. Output was 90 hp (66 kW) for the 1 barrel carburetor version, 100 hp (74 kW) @ 5600 rpm & 156 Nm @ 3700 rpm for the 2 barrel carburetor version, or 118 hp (88 kW) @ 5300 rpm & 178 Nm @ 3700 rpm with fuel injection and higher compression (10:1 vs 8.6:1).
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Where did you get the 44IDF's from ? My Photo is of 45DCOE's. were you referring to another car ?
If you have a DCO type manifold already, you can buy an DCO style Throttle body for it for about $350, then you just need to go scrounging for bits off an old EFI car. _________________ Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people
Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:44 am
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ah my mistake, the idf series is down draught isnt it.
probably wont take the plunge into twin carbs until i can do a bit more intake work on the engine to make it worthwhile. but shiny chrome looks nice is that yours brett?
has anyone heard the old trick of blowing propane down the carb intakes to tune them right? ive heard of it on the fiat forums but had no idea how it could work _________________ www.demon50s.com - Minimoto parts
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Tue Oct 09, 2007 1:27 pm
Valen Experienced Roboteer
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If your keen glen we can make some kind of 4 "barrel" electronically controlled whozit with per piston control of fuel/air and the whole kit n kaboodle, cmon rhino should be into performance parts no?
I think i have my carby somewhat healthier, i gave it a shot of engine degreaser and let it sit there for a few minutes then "washed" it out with wet engine starter while running the engine. _________________ Mechanical engineers build weapons, civil engineers build targets
Tue Oct 09, 2007 7:21 pm
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you can get carby rebuild kits easy these days. i got mine somewhere local (maybe around granville? it was a while ago) and it only took a day or so to make.
sounds like a fun idea anyway i was thinking of just making my own FI and straight through manifold like that adding the other sensors to the engine block = sucks. _________________ www.demon50s.com - Minimoto parts
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Tue Oct 09, 2007 8:40 pm
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my mechanic said that calibrating and doing all the other crud your self was almost impossible without the right tools. I'm not too sure what you "calibrate" in a carby tho.
Bah "trumpets and bodies" bit of 316 stainless and give glen a hammer for a while ;-> _________________ Mechanical engineers build weapons, civil engineers build targets
Tue Oct 09, 2007 10:34 pm
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quote:Originally posted by Glen:
ah my mistake, the idf series is down draught isnt it.
probably wont take the plunge into twin carbs until i can do a bit more intake work on the engine to make it worthwhile. but shiny chrome looks nice is that yours brett?
has anyone heard the old trick of blowing propane down the carb intakes to tune them right? ive heard of it on the fiat forums but had no idea how it could work
Yep. IDF's go on Porsche Flat 4's, and V8..
They've been sitting on my shelf for a year or so waiting for the Charger to come in out of the rain and get its panelwork all fixed and painted. now thats happening, which is keeping me broke, but hey, you have to have some rteason to work hard I suppose.
I nearly went for Independent-runner Fuel Injection, but the Nostalgia Factor of the webers (I had a set on the car near on 20 years ago) combined with the fact I already had them and would have had to sell them to finance EFI, then tune it kept them on the list.
The next car project after the Charger is planned to Electrify the Gemini Wagon to compensate $ and greenie wise for the extreme power & consequent fuel slurping of the Webers but thats probably a way down the track yet.
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Wed Oct 10, 2007 12:00 am
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squirting a bit of propane down the intake will richen the mixture slightly, and you can observe the change in revs to decide whether the carby is too rich or too lean.
Carbies are fun.
Individual throttles and EFI are not that hard to do, but it's really not worth the effort unless you're building a serious engine and want to spend a lot of time tuning.
On most EFI setups, single throttle seems to work just as well as individuals, especially on modern engines with very well designed intake manifolds. _________________ The Engine Whisperer
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Wed Oct 17, 2007 11:42 pm
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busted.... again....
TIP!
when your friend calls asking you to get him to home cause his sick, when your on your L's dont drive faster than the speedlimit in actual fact you should be driving at all (on your own) the end result isnt pretty, and by pretty i meen 1300$ and a backyard full of broken stuff when you go out there and take your frustrations out... _________________ as a shadow is seen and not heard i am here
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Fri Oct 19, 2007 10:53 pm
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shouldnt you be off your L's like a million years ago?
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is that yours brett?
i was thinking of just making my own FI and straight through manifold like that adding the other sensors to the engine block = sucks.
