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Im getting very tight on weight on my 12kg bot i am thinking if lexan is half the weight or less then half i can use 6mm lexan insted of 3mm ali those are the only two options i have at the moment or maybe 4mm lexan
3mm lexan 3mm ali how strong is it compared to ali? _________________ Tim Team Reaper.
Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:14 pm
Glen Experienced Roboteer
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3mm is flimsy as hell. dont rely on it for any form of structure. it will only work armour (and wont do that well when we have such high power spinners.) _________________ www.demon50s.com - Minimoto parts
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Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:22 pm
timmeh Experienced Roboteer
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as long as it is half the weight as ali i will go the 6mm but where can i get some cheaper then bunnings.In vic around the baywater aria or dose anyone have any forsale?
It is for armor but only half the bot is open for damage realy so 3mm on top and bottom with 6mm on back and front might be ok to save weight _________________ Tim Team Reaper.
Tue Aug 24, 2004 6:25 pm
kkeerroo Experienced Roboteer
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Hey Glen, stop putting down the plastic robots.
I have built both The Aggressor and Adversary out of nothing but 3mm Polycarb. I do use small 50mm long sections of ali L-bracket to hold the polycarb together with either bolts or pop rivits, but the main structural strength is the polycarb. Yes the frames do bend, but I've been bouncing those robots off wall and other robots without much trouble. And yes polycarb will crack if you don't prepare it. When the leg snapped of The Aggressor the crack propergated from a sharp corner which I hadn't rounded and the crack at the front of Adversary was from a rivet hole I hadn't de-burred due to running short of time.
On the other hand the same hit the cracked to polycarb on Adversary also hit the front panel dead on which deformed over 300% !!!!!!! I measured the bump as 9mm high, without penertration. That same sort of hit penertrated Sorry's 3mm ali.
A hit from Annihilation on The Aggressor cracked one of the cast steel bearing blocks, but the the hit beside it only went 2mm into the polycarb.
And Polycarb robots look cool.
By the way Lexan is an American brand name and I havn't seen it sold in Australia, where as Bunnings polycarb which is what I use is Macralon which is a British brand name. Do you drink cola or Coke? _________________ Get Some!!!
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Tue Aug 24, 2004 9:50 pm
Waddy the phoenix
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yeah there are plenty of mobs in australia that sell lexan but its practally the same stuff realy _________________ as a shadow is seen and not heard i am here
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Tue Aug 24, 2004 10:56 pm
dustpanboy911
Joined: 15 Jul 2004
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Lexan
On my first two bots I actually used lexan. I quickly figured lexan is much weaker than most aluminum and if possible should be used for the top and possibly the bottom of the bot. If you can stay away from lexan then go for 2024-T3 aluminum. That is the best stuff i've seen! I have noticed that under hard impacts the lexan can crack. UHMW is the only plastic I really use. Most people know it can take an unlimited impact without breaking and WONT CRACK, at all. Saws are a bit of a concern but not too bad if you use a little bit of aluminum behind it. UHMW is also lighter than lexan and can get spinning weapons jammed into it. On my 5.5 kg bot I use 25mm (not a typo) UHMW on all sides with a 2.5mm titanium on the front and back to prevent anything to get through. So far nothing has been able to do any significant damage. On my 6mm lexan version it got cracked and bent, not a good thing! _________________ Team Dustpan Robotics
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Wed Aug 25, 2004 9:02 am
timmeh Experienced Roboteer
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KKEERROO
Would you say 3mm lexan is better then 3mm ali for armor as long as you round the edges and remove the burs from drill holes _________________ Tim Team Reaper.
Wed Aug 25, 2004 5:08 pm
kkeerroo Experienced Roboteer
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I wouldn't say anything is better than something else as armour.
it is another option tho. _________________ Get Some!!!
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Wed Aug 25, 2004 6:06 pm
timmeh Experienced Roboteer
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Would 10mm polycarb be good for a robots frame? _________________ Tim Team Reaper.
Sun Oct 10, 2004 12:43 pm
Glen Experienced Roboteer
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yeah for a frame it would be alright. i use it for the lid and base on cobra because it is just so light yet ubelievably stiff.
just make sure nothing can hit it directly because it likes to crack.
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