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ffej
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Joined: 22 Jun 2004
Posts: 595
Location: Kurrajong, NSW
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I wouldnt diss the dead Aaron, My friends sister was reduced to tears not so long ago because she saw her grandfather (who commited suicide) all over the place, and it wasnt what ghosts are depicted as in movies and books (pale figures with "unfinished buisness" ). She saw him as a human wearing 1930s style clothing (waistcoat with long black pants, shiny black leather shoes and a bowler hat) with no apparent meaning for existance, just stood there, not doing much wearing a confused look on his face.
The scary thing, no one else could see him.
another thing worth noting is that this girl has never told a lie in her life (shes 16 years old) .
Go figure
There is still very little known about how the human brain operates . . . But we do know that its possible for trauma to induce images that seem very real, and to relive them over and over . . . and im sure seeing something like that qualifies as a traumatic event
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Originally posted by Team Hell Bent!:
The only weired thing that has ever happened to me was at a cemitary and i was sitting in my car with no one els and i had the keys with the centrle locking button on em and i was sitting there and all of a sudden all the buttons locked so i pressed the key ring to unluck em and then 2 mins later they locked agen so i again pressed the button and they locked again and this kept happening for about 45 mins about every 2 mins.
Once we left the cemitary and got back home i decided to sit in the car and see if it would happen again but it never did and still to this day it has never happened again.
Ever heard of passive arming ? Its a feature im many car alarms and central locking kits that makes the car automaticly lock, and is often easily enabled by using the remote.
Im naturally skeptical about such things . . . . I believe that for every event in our lives there is a perfectly logical / scientificly valid explination. I think that most "Miracles" are just coincidences. Before you completely discount my statement, take a look at the below extract taken from http://www.drsnet.org/radley/science/:
"The book also has a good chapter on "Amazing Coincidences." These are strange events which appear to give evidence of supernatural influences operating in everyday life. They are not the result of deliberate fraud or trickery, but only of the laws of probability. The paradoxical feature of the laws of probability is that they make unlikely events happen unexpectedly often. A simple way to state the paradox is Littlewood's Law of Miracles. Littlewood was a famous mathematician who was teaching at Cambridge University when I was a student. Being a professional mathematician, he defined miracles precisely before stating his law about them. He defined a miracle as an event that has special significance when it occurs, but occurs with a probability of one in a million. This definition agrees with our common-sense understanding of the word "miracle."
Littlewood's Law of Miracles states that in the course of any normal person's life, miracles happen at a rate of roughly one per month. The proof of the law is simple. During the time that we are awake and actively engaged in living our lives, roughly for eight hours each day, we see and hear things happening at a rate of about one per second. So the total number of events that happen to us is about thirty thousand per day, or about a million per month. With few exceptions, these events are not miracles because they are insignificant. The chance of a miracle is about one per million events. Therefore we should expect about one miracle to happen, on the average, every month. Broch tells stories of some amazing coincidences that happened to him and his friends, all of them easily explained as consequences of Littlewood's Law." _________________ Jeff Ferrara
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Spockie-Tech
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Joined: 31 May 2004
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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Thats actually a very relevant point Tim..
Sometimes its the context that makes a particular event memorable, rather than the event itself..
Had your doors kept locking in your driveway I'll bet in most cases your first thought would have been that something was wrong with the electronics..
but put the same event in a cemetary where people are aware of the possibility of supernatural occurences and all sorts of otherwise ordinary events suddenly take on supernatural significance in their minds.
However, Although I definitely consider myself a believer in the scientific method of observation, deduction and prediction, in the interests of remaining open minded I caution everyone to remember that science does NOT have all the answers (yet), and that there are many things that do not necessarily have a logical explanation
at the present time.
I do not doubt that one day we will be able to explain "whatever it is", but dont assume that if we cant explain it NOW, it doesnt exist.
One of my favourite examples of this is a comment I read in a science book..
Fire up your De-Lorean time machine, and go visit 3 "scientists", 1 each from the years 1900, 1950, and 2000.. Show each of the scientists 3 identical mass but different substance bricks.. #1 is made of Red-Hot Iron, #2 is made of room temperature Uranium 235, #3 is made of Frozen Hydrogen. ask them each to rate the bricks in terms of the potential energy that could be extracted from the bricks in decreasing order.
Mr 1900 will vote 1,2,3 - Heat energy was understood from the hot iron, but warm uranium was useless, and frozen hydrogen would only be good for absorbing energy (heat).
Mr 1950 will vote 2,1,3 - Now we can see the fission energy in Uranium that was invisible to our eyes before, after Hiroshima everyone realised what power could be locked up in the atom, but Hydrogen isnt radioactive and wont fission so it is of no use to us.
Mr 2000 will vote 3,2,1 - Suddenly the possibility of fusing all that Nice Cold Hydrogen into Helium and releasing even more energy than even the Uranium fission can yield is now available to us.. That red-hot brick of iron that looked so chock full of energy back then is now seen as relatively devoid of energy, since a few hundred degrees of molecular heat is relatively wimpy looking next to the awesome power of the atomic nucleus.
So in just 100 years, our views on something as fundamental as the sources of energy available to us took a complete back-flip and we could suddenly "see" all this energy that had been hiding under our noses all along.
Keep that in mind when someone says "If it cant be measured, it doesnt exist". We just may not have invented the right tool to measure it yet. _________________ Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people
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