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Philip
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60% emission reduction

How can Australia reduce it's emissions by 60% of the 2000 levels by the year 2050?

We will have more than doubled our population by then. That means that we will have to decrease our per person emissions by more than 120%.

How is that possible?
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turn off the lights air con, tv and computers when not absolutely needed ,install solar hot water, eat salads instead of cooking use solar cookers if needed ,walk or ride bike's to work many more other ways to reduce personal energy consumption. same thing in work places

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Build massive carbon accumulator towers that run on solar power and pull co2 out of the air, break down the atoms, release the o2 back out and form the carbon into graphite or better yet, diamonds Razz

Could also look at ditching oil/coal and use electricity generated by solar, wind generators, tidal generators, geothermal, hydroelectric and making the those of us who could with some more exercise could do a few hours on the exercise bike with a generator connected to it Razz




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This apart of your Kevin07 Anti-Campaign Phil ? Wink
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This apart of your Kevin07 Anti-Campaign Phil ? Wink
No. That boat has sailed. I will change my sig one day.

I am reasonably interested in how to reduce the consumption of resources. You might remember the "Future transport solutions" thread I started.

I do the standard things. I use fluorescent lights, have insulation, shade the northern and western side of the house, drive a fuel efficient car, etc.

What I wont to know is how do you reduce emissions by more than 100% per person. Even if we ban all cars and turn off the electricity grid, we still have to breath. All of the animals still breath. The trees will still grow old, die and rot releasing their stored carbon as CO2. Surely we cannot do more than 100%.

We are going to set up reverse osmosis water purifiers at the same time. They use enormous amounts of power.

Is there a technology that will pull the CO2 out of the air and safely store the carbon away?
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the only animals needed are native free ones. Australia slorted over 126million animals in 3 months to june this year. all of which where un-necessary. And takes a lot more basicly everything to grow a kg of animal then a kg of vegetable.

we would need to have greener energy sources. no cars which emit co2 and a series of filtration systems to break down CO2 to its base elements. 2 my knolage no such thing exists the best we have is a way to funnel co2 away from power stations and into C02 valts under the sea

World population needs to be brought into line with the maimam the earth can sustain China is one of the only countrys good enough to make a try with this unfortunately to help the environment survive the rest of us would need to follow in there fine example

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World population needs to be brought into line with the maimam the earth can sustain China is one of the only countrys good enough to make a try with this unfortunately to help the environment survive the rest of us would need to follow in there fine example


Shocked Is that the same China that I'm thinking about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_of_China

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We will have more than doubled our population by then. That means that we will have to decrease our per person emissions by more than 120%.


we'll we could always dispose of 50% of the population in a ruthless soylent green type fashion. preferably those who vote labour and worthless african hardliner nations.

aside from that i will make a utopian society on one of the distant moons of neptune, where we will have no problems like this and can start anew (aside from the slight issues of total uninhabitability)

well that or we could pass air through lithium hydroxide cartridges to purify the CO2 from the air or at least lessen it.

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World population needs to be brought into line with the maimam the earth can sustain China is one of the only countrys good enough to make a try with this unfortunately to help the environment survive the rest of us would need to follow in there fine example


Shocked Is that the same China that I'm thinking about?

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Environment_of_China


no one is perfect. they have less pollution per person then us.


http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/One-child_policy if every country did the same the world may have a chance but they have way 2 many people so a long way to go.

Truly the best way to save the earth would be to kill everyone that does not live in a tribal or nomadic way almost untouched by technology. And destroy all technology behond there current level. There is more to the world then humans and our selfishness

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no one is perfect. they have less pollution per person then us.


Well yeah, if you have a lot of persons you tend to havel less polution per person. But that is like what the coal power plants do now.

"We are not allowed to have more than 1500 ppm polution in a cubic meter of air?"

"Well then we put large fans in place and shove more cubic metres of air through the stacks."

China may have some good ideas and is one of the most rapidly developing economies in the word, but enviromentally it is not exactly a champion for the greenpeace cause. Smile

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Lols @ Glen's utopia...

So tempted to pull about 50 anime style ideas Laughing


The bottom line is though, we'll find some way of copping, if not, we'll go the way of the dinosaurs! Into OverDrift = http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RhdvMc6Yd2U&feature=related
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I swear one of those cars looks like a hotted up telstar.
Nuclear fusion is the only plausible answer to long term energy demands. Solar thermal might do it with vanadium redox batteries for storage but it wont lead to a "tech level 2" society i don't think.

Population growth is the cause of many of our problems. A world wide population goal of about 2Bn people is about right. "Economic growth" is also part of the problem. Growth should come from improvements in productivity not from increases in population to do more work. IE work smarter not harder.

Populations should be allowed to decline in westernised countries rather than propping them up by immigration, by doing this these cultures will settle into steady state. That should be the goal. Populations in the wild sit at roughly one level limited by available resources. You can either have 6Bn Ethiopian peasants wandering the planes naked with an average life expectancy of around 25 or 2Bn or so people living in a fusion powered civilisation using renewable resources for all things that are practically limited. (IE eventually you will run out of hydrogen in the ocean. Feel free to call me when that becomes a problem)
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Laughing Why does Logans Run come to mind when you say that Jake?
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id be interested to hear of macguyvers thoughts Shocked
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@dyrodium you could do it that way, but it doeth suck too much methinks ;-P
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It is achievable as the theory is that our knowledge and efficiency will also increase over that time. Therefore producing less emissions.

Also a very simple way to decrease emmissions would be to get rid of coal burning power stations. But a good short term solution is to make coal power less polluting, and make the others affordable.

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