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Lol, one is enough
Had Aaron over to build some roborts today, gave me a bit of motivation to start modifying the flipper cylinder.
Managed to cut the assembly down by 35mm in height by removing 10mm of stroke and removing some useless double o-ring joins, then removed 600g of weight by thinning the cylinders wall thickness down from 5mm to 2mm and cutting some off the top to facilitate the reduced stroke.
Also replaced the massive aluminium piston rod with a thinned down one that has a solid UHMW piston. Much lighter
Going to attack the base, top and tie rods next for some weight reduction, looks to be about 4-500g of weight that can be removed from them. Then time to build the actual robot _________________ www.demon50s.com - Minimoto parts
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Sun Apr 26, 2015 6:04 pm
miles&Jules Experienced Roboteer
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We'll see, but tight enough not to rattle about, and not so tight that it can't return under it's own weight seems about right. _________________ www.demon50s.com - Minimoto parts
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Sun Apr 26, 2015 8:21 pm
Glen Experienced Roboteer
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As always. Back to square one.
Got the original ram down to 1.5kg, and an easy 300-400g worth of metal can come out of the base. However, the ram itself is dimensionally huge due to the needlessly massive shuttle valve and only 50mm bore. A reasonable bore size but for a sportsman i want all out mega flipping power!
So starting again on a 70x50mm bore and stroke single piece aluminium unit. While I get the tools necessary to make it, work plows on with the rest of the sportsman robot. I call him...
CITIZEN FLIPS
Rather standard in design. 3mm mild steel base, the uprights for the flipper arm will be 6mm thick and the arm itself will be 2 pieces of 25x25x2 SHS tube.
The 12oz buffer and burket valve sits at an oblique angle as that is the most compact way to package things while still leaving enough space for the uprights. I could have had the valve and tank perpendicular to the centerline and built the flipper hinge into the top of the ram like some UK robots.. but want to play it safe for now.
Got the base cut out and machined the 12mm wearex buffer tank mounts. Will try get the arm and uprights cut and welded on through the week as well as the drives mounted Should be pretty sweet when it's working. _________________ www.demon50s.com - Minimoto parts
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quote:Originally posted by haz:
Love the name. What is wearex?
Yuppie trade name for UHMW apparently! Dunno if it's actually any different.
+ Indeed on the footage. So many flippy flips! Rather keen to see it from ground level actually. Could be good for future analysis _________________ www.demon50s.com - Minimoto parts
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Tue May 12, 2015 11:26 am
Glen Experienced Roboteer
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Big week/end! Got heaps done while Aaron worked on his nugget.
Started off with a 4kg slab of 7075
Blasted through this part pretty quick. That process alone filled up a big grass bag of swarf D:
One side done.
Flipped it over, did the bore and turned down the ram to length. Its sitting on a 10mm thick piece of aluminium that has a center stub turned into it to locate the ram body.
Ended up having to make my own boring bar, which after two tries ended up working magnificently. The bore is super nice, i doubt i could have gotten that much better.
Rounded off the weekend by chopping up the 3mm steel for the uprighty parts. There's going to be 3x mounting holes for the arm so i can move it about for testing/research. They bolt to the base too for modifying if needed.
Also this friggin random cat keeps coming in and stealing my cable ties. What a total jerk face
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quote:Originally posted by Ellis:
Strap pneumatics to cat. Enter catbot. Control with dangling ziptie.
And the kitty flipper would qualify for the full walker weight bonus - shame about the lack of failsafing though _________________ Australian 2015 Featherweight champion
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Mon May 18, 2015 8:32 am
miles&Jules Experienced Roboteer
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Ah yeah, I sent the cat over to bring back supplies for me to fix Overdrive with - hope you don't mind! Haha
Looking very nice though, be cool to see when it's all up and running! Are you going for a more toro-style arm with it being a sportsman (I think?)
Mon May 18, 2015 10:52 pm
Valen Experienced Roboteer
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If you really want that bore to be sexeh run a brake cylinder hone through it. Probably an idea to put sandpaper (like 800 grit say?) over the stones in the hone so they don't get clogged up. Should take out any remaining ridges from the machining. For sealing get a low temperature grease/oil I thinks, your piston is so thick it'll help reduce the blow by a fair bit.
We found that plastic piston ring style rings (rather than O-Rings) also worked pretty well. _________________ Mechanical engineers build weapons, civil engineers build targets
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