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original_carnage
Experienced Roboteer
Joined: 12 Jul 2004
Posts: 326
Location: Toowoomba(ish), travel to Brisbane
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quote:
Originally posted by chris:
How are we supposed to know that there really is a heaven or a hell, an all powerful god or a Devil or anything else related to the death theory that is put foward in the pages of the Bible.
Here's another thought.... the "devil" is/was an angel cast out from heaven for vanity (amongst other minor infractions). If "god" can't control the actions of his/her/its own servants/angels, what chance is there that said being/deity could make the world (and everything in it).
Another thought for "believers"..... christianity (monotheistic belief - one god) arose from a polytheistic (many gods) society as a cult - the reason the old testament says to not take the religion door to door, is that you would be put to death for heresay. The polytheistic society those spawned christianity ultimately arose from Mesopotamia.
Mesopotamia (the first known city state society of human existance) were the people who invented the wheel, law and punishment (Hammurabi's Law Code - where an eye for an eye first came from) and the first form of recorded faith. In the mesopotamia religion, man was made by the gods from mud. They spent their lives toiling for the church and providing for the priests. When man died, he simply reverted to mud. No heaven, no hell.
There are more religions currently in use (and unused from human history) that claim belief in more than one god/deity, by the numbers - christianity is out voted... can you tell I'm an athiest (somone who doesn't believe in one supreme deity or being).
thank society that Aust. hasn't got an official religion police..... _________________ There is no such thing as excessive carnage.
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Thu Oct 14, 2004 11:02 am |
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prong
Experienced Roboteer
Joined: 19 Jun 2004
Posts: 839
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I would not say release is freedom to stay or go. I would take it to mean in this context that the devil wants to go so god lets him, he releases him, as in he does not stop him, there is no wanting to stay or go, only go.
Same as if i say i release a balloon, it has no freedom to stay, release is literally to "set free from confinement, restraint, or bondage", so it would seem release is only applicable if whatver is released actually leaves.
also though i would not say that cast out and released are the same thing, if you are cast out you could want to stay but have no choice.
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Thu Oct 14, 2004 5:03 pm |
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