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timmeh
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Heres what i got back from the robot market place>

Sorry, but our markup on these is very low, so we really cant offer any kind of discount. Best we can do is a package price on shipping.

No use to use really since they have to go to different locations.
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There has been a fair bit of talk on the RFL forums about how the DX-6 doesn't failsafe properly and how it won't pass failsafe tech inspections at events. I'm starting to get second throughts on the DX-6, I'm thinking about going a DX-3, because it will actually failsafe properly ie: actually kill all output signals to neutral, unlike the DX-6 which holds the last position.

http://forums.delphiforums.com/n/mb/message.asp?webtag=THERFL&msg=2994.3

I would feel really sorry for all those who buy a DX-6 and turn up to RoboWars 4 and can't battle because they cannot pass the failsafe check in tech inspections Confused
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To pass tech inspections when using a spectrum DX-6, all you need do is install a solenoid that controls main power on the throttle output, it will failsafe every time. Not the most pretty solution, but I believe there are many UK builders that do this anyway, so that they can remotely disconnect power from there robots before having to get near them to pull the link.

Im going to email the Spektrum guys about it anyway, so hopefully something will come out of that.
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but if the radio id always putting out valid signals how does your solenoid know to work?
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The throttle channel actually does return to zero, its the rest of them that dont . . .
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Sounds a bit klugdy.. having to drop in a big heavy current main solenoid with a servo/relay switch decoder.. surely the spectrum guys can tweak the code on this ?

Although I suppose most plane guys would probably want that behaviour, I hope they find a solution, sounds like a nice unit otherwise.
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Theres allways this radio so far its the cheapest pcm iv seen $150us

www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXJUV7**&P=0

Only thing is once again it has a 110v charger but it is $50us cheaper then the spectrum which allso has a 110v charger.
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That link was for the FM model I think..

This is the PCM one. Its $20US more than FM though..
Its the one Tim (KO) got. It seems OK so far. Any complaints tim ?

www2.towerhobbies.com/cgi-bin/wti0001p?&I=LXKAJ2**&P=ML

The wall-wart chargers are slow as anyway.. Most Robot Builders have a Triton or Similair charger, you just cut the socket off the switch harness that comes with the radio, make an adapter so it plugs into your Triton and you can pump the power back into the Tx battery as quick or as slow as you like with much better control than the silly 110v plugpack..
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MM just had an idea for a light weight that shouldnt take to much to build should be good for exhibition matches will just have to lend a motor from Aaron Very Happy

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Thats the one thanks.

Prob wouldent be worth waiting for the spektrum guys to fix that problem as it might take a while.Knowing rc guys its so there plane keeps flying probebly.

Sure you cant program the spot where they failsafe too?
Damn thats a shame.
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lol as far as my concern stretches only time youll get the thing to failsafe is if you have the transmitter batteries die in which case the IMX-1 will take care of the failsafing in that essence or the BEC in my robot dies which will just leave the IMX-1 to failsafe out as well or so my knowledge goes, although i have had quite a bit southern comfort tonight so you might have to corret me on that Razz
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lol as far as my concern stretches only time youll get the thing to failsafe is if you have the transmitter batteries die in which case the IMX-1 will take care of the failsafing in that essence or the BEC in my robot dies which will just leave the IMX-1 to failsafe out as well or so my knowledge goes


The IMX-1 won't failsafe because the Spektrum RX will just feed the IMX-1 a clean signal and it will keep going Razz
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how can it transmit anything if there is no power going to it..
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Transmitter batteries don't power the RX or the IMX-1 Razz If you lose power to the RX, it will stop, but any RX will do that if your using an ESC...
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If you use the throttle for the weapon then the only thing that would not failsafe would be the drive and the bot would just drive into a wall and spins its wheels.

It would be a rare ocasion for something to go wrong anyway with this radio but rules are rules and it has to pass inspection.

Such a pitty they didnt think of this when they made the radio Sad

BTW i have emailed the robot marketplace about this problem and they are going to test the radio and put there findings on the web site with the radio.
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