yep, if all goes according to plan there'll be Stealth style rapid fire flippage while being able to take on spinners
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Being forever aware of trying to encourage new builders to this sport I find the rapid explosion of High energy spinners concerning. It certainly has convinced me at least that there is only 2 ways to go. Either put all your weight into a devastating weapon or put all of your weight into devastating armour. I don't think you can have an even mix of both anymore.
I had a weapon weighing in at around 3kg's and while my build quality and design skills aren't as good as many others, because of the high KE weapons many non weaponed bots now have such good armour that you can't win on damage against them without a high KE weapon. Winning on control and style is even more difficult in my opinion.

Just some thoughts but I worry that many of the people who were interested in joining us will very soon be to worried about getting their first bot smashed to bits in their very first fight to bother building at all.

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until they see punk's fights ;->

what is a "paper" bot?
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This is a good point, although in my opinion Punk and Eleanor are some of the best first designs I've seen. Not everyone can learn the lessons that they've learnt straight up. (Sorry if I've missed anyone newbie who has built a great first bot.)

I think as although all this might be an interesting topic, mike IS a new builder, so he's allowed a wedge!
Combining a wedge with a weapon can make a very effective robot. Although snak masheen didn't win much, if my weapon wasn't doing as much damage as it could have, it was an easy manouver to flip the reverse switch on my radio and ram bots into the wall with the rear wedge. Trying to *ban* a whole class of robots is pretty stupid in my opinion, if people want to winge, then build something that can defeat them easily... I know currently in the states the massive featherweight spinners like killabyte and relik are having trouble facing off with Xillerating (shpelling?) impax and it's full hardened S7 wedge! But even so... a good armoured flipper could probably own both.
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Just some thoughts but I worry that many of the people who were interested in joining us will very soon be to worried about getting their first bot smashed to bits in their very first fight to bother building at all.
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This is a good point, although in my opinion Punk and Eleanor are some of the best first designs I've seen. Not everyone can learn the lessons that they've learnt straight up. (Sorry if I've missed anyone newbie who has built a great first bot.)

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Originally posted by Valen:
until they see punk's fights ;->

what is a "paper" bot?

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Sounds like i need to clarify a few things about Spyder.
90% of it is just 3mm mild steel. There are a few leading edges that are doubled to 6mm but most of it is just 3mm which is not that thick at all.
The wedge has a unique building approach which doeas give it extra support but still the panels on the wedge are still just 3mm.
Pinscher, one of the earliest paper bots had 3mm aluminium with about 4-5mm of leather on that so this is the thinnest armour I have had yet.
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Hi all,
A Rock Paper Scissors thread was created in General Chatter.

http://www.robowars.org/forum/viewtopic.php?t=973

Something between my tranmitter and my wheels has gone wrong . I can drive frowards ok, but backwards causes only one wheel to work at a time and generally turns left. The same thing happens with the steering. Right turns right, while left is somewhere between turning and driving forwards.

I've looked at the channel mixing settings in the spektrum but I dont think that the transmitter has gone funny. If I remember I'll take a video tomorrow. There was something intermittent while battling at robowars, and it really showed in the wacky race. I was only able to drive backwards and turn left. Trying to drive forwards or right became unpredictable.

Any suggestions???

the IBC does mixing for you, get either the IBC or the spectrum to do the mixing not both ;->
check the jumpers and chips on the IBC are firmly seated (ie push them all firmly but not "hard" back into their sockets, and be aware of static while doing so, ie sit down in a non plastic seat if you have one touch something large metal and earthed (sink works well) then start mucking about with it)
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I would be checking motors and gearboxes carefully.
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I'll check the seating of the chips when I get home.

All of the motors still go forward, and one drive side still goes backwards, so I would presume the motors are ok. I'll give them a good test tonight.

You can isolate the various systems to help you find where the problem lies. You can disconnect the receiver from the robot and plug servos in to find out if that is the problem or not. You can plug your IBC to the receiver and attach lights to the output instead of motors to check if EMF from the motors is interfering with the radio signal.
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Looks like I have a fried brain (in my IBC). The problem is the same on all channels of the radio. The servos react as the should so it's probably the IBC.

With the mixing jumper removed the left side move correctly and the right side is odd. Backwards is fine, but when the stick is moved slowly forward it goes from full backwards, down to off when the stick is pushed to the top. I'll fire off an email to Jason, I'm just wondering if anyone else has seen this?