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hydraulics

I never played with hydraulics before and I'm after some tips.

I'm thinking about making a height adjustable stool, using hydraulics. Was thinking of making a ram out of pvc pipe and using a garden sprinkler valve to release the pressure(stool goes down). I'm guessing I need some sort of hydraulic pump to raise the stool, anyone know what sort of pump would suit this application? I'm thinking about using just water and would like to find a cheap source for a pump.

Thanks guys...
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Post Mon Sep 13, 2010 6:45 pm 
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Anyone know if this sort of thing would work? Thanks.

http://cgi.ebay.com.au/Chev-V8-High-Volume-Oil-Pump-/260662963024?pt=AU_Car_Parts_Accessories&hash=item3cb0b92b50#ht_500wt_1154
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Post Tue Sep 14, 2010 7:01 pm 
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Not that I am an expert on hydraulics, but you would probably need a high pressure pump, rather than a high volume pump. If you go with water, a pump like that would rust and seize pretty quickly. How about picking up a discarded lift chair and seeing if you can hack the gas strut to work as a hydraulic cylinder?

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The ram I'm cool with I can do that myself. If I make a large bore ram the pressure needed would be low but the flow needed would be higher and I guess I could use oil. Thanks for the input.
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How fancy do you want to get? What's your power source?

You could try car power steering pumps, IIRC they will work up to around 500psi and are commonly available.
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Post Tue Sep 14, 2010 9:37 pm 
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Not fancy @ all, cheap. Power would be a DC motor from a SLA.
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Car parts always seem to come to the rescue with these budget projects, it's great. I thinking a steering pump or a oil pump could work. I would have to use some type of oil. I guessing the oil pump would be better for a lower pressure application with greater flow as well. A lower pressure system would use cheaper fittings which I like, the bore of the ram would just need to be larger.

I'll try to get some pumps and play with them, thanks ppl.
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Oil pumps run <80PSI 99.999% of the time and will require a fair amount of modification due to their in-motor design. Power steering pumps are sealed units, generally come with reservoirs, lines, fittings (banjo bolts) and rotary valves (from the steering rack) that can all be sources from the car you pinch them off.
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Would this be for your flight sim project? If you are going to have a DC motor in there anyway, why not make an actuator from a car scissor jack? Alternatively, you might find a cheap hydraulic bottle jack and motorise that. Car parts to the rescue every time!

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Another NEW project Nick Rolling Eyes

Good tips guys thank you, I'll ditch the oil pump idea.
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Engine oil pumps usually have a fair bit of leakage, no shaft seals, etc.
They're meant to be sitting in the oil reservoir so it doesn't matter Smile


Electric fuel pumps from EFI cars can be pretty good. They won't work with water, but would be ok with kerosene or similar for less flammability.

They'll usually do up to 100psi or so.
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