At the end of a competition, I want my Robot: |
Destroyed and inoperable... |
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Dented, but I always win, so it will be OK... |
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Unscathed and ready for me to improve if I don't win! |
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25% |
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Knightrous
Site Admin
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Posts: 8511
Location: NSW
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Originally posted by Red.13:
OK, I'm astounded. And disappointed, frankly.
You and me both, I've been keen to see someone bring some automation to the combat side of things, but it just never happens
Would love to see a spinner that runs away while it's getting it's weapon up to speed, then gets aggressive and attacks it's opponent with full force! Or a lifter / clamping robot that pins the opponent against the wall, grabs them and lifts them up. However, I'll probably never see that happen if current trends continue.
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Originally posted by Red.13:
Here is a very cool video of the Japanese doing Sumo. Some of the bots are damn clever!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7OWopN7Wysg
I found that video rather boring for a few reason:
1. It is entirely about who has the most magnets and lowest ground scraping wedge. This ends up in a pissing contest, which ruins the fun of the sport (like other forms of sports (ie: drag racing, where having the most cash generally wins out)
2. Both in quite a few fights, one robot activates before the other, making it pretty much one sided. Lack of a real synchronized starting procedure is pretty lame considering the whole "automated" idea here.
3. They lack intelligence, as soon as a the opponent goes out the arena, the remaining robot runs back and forth bouncing off the ring markers. If these were truly clever, they would detect the opponent not being in the arena and return to the centre (maybe a victory spin/dance). They don't seem to have evolved much since I watched sumo robots at USQ in 2002 (Their soccer bots were waaaay cooler!).
Also, if you need some experience with sumo, why not just build a couple of them and let them battle each other? Being autonomous, you don't need mates to drive them for you
A 13.6kg robot is probably just a cheap as one of those tricked out sumo bots (which is what you'll end up having to spend/build to compete against someone with a sumo bot with greater funding invested into it). _________________ https://www.halfdonethings.com/
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Thu Jun 20, 2013 2:04 pm |
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Red.13
Joined: 17 Jun 2013
Posts: 47
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quote:
Originally posted by Knightrous:
Would love to see a spinner that runs away while it's getting it's weapon up to speed, then gets aggressive and attacks it's opponent with full force! Or a lifter / clamping robot that pins the opponent against the wall, grabs them and lifts them up. However, I'll probably never see that happen if current trends continue.
Yup, that is all possible... But to get to there, starting with Sumo class is almost a must.
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Originally posted by Knightrous:
I found that video rather boring for a few reason:
1. It is entirely about who has the most magnets and lowest ground scraping wedge. This ends up in a pissing contest, which ruins the fun of the sport (like other forms of sports (ie: drag racing, where having the most cash generally wins out)
Isn't that the case with ANY sport? In the Robotwars, it seems like spinners always win. *shrug*
BTW, magnets are not allowed nor any other sort of suction to the deck.
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Originally posted by Knightrous:
2. Both in quite a few fights, one robot activates before the other, making it pretty much one sided. Lack of a real synchronized starting procedure is pretty lame considering the whole "automated" idea here.
Well that really should not happen. There is a 5 second pause after they release the button. If anyone didn't react as soon as 5 secs were up, that is their poor coding.
But, there have been some calls and modules made to force remote starts by the judge. Those modules are available but to my knowledge are not yet enforced.
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Originally posted by Knightrous:
3. They lack intelligence, as soon as a the opponent goes out the arena, the remaining robot runs back and forth bouncing off the ring markers. If these were truly clever, they would detect the opponent not being in the arena and return to the centre (maybe a victory spin/dance). They don't seem to have evolved much since I watched sumo robots at USQ in 2002 (Their soccer bots were waaaay cooler!).
LOL! Funny you should say that... I am putting in victory dances in mine.
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Originally posted by Knightrous:
Also, if you need some experience with sumo, why not just build a couple of them and let them battle each other? Being autonomous, you don't need mates to drive them for you
That's hardly fun. And twice as costly as required to get the same result.
Seriously... Take a look at Robogames... http://robogames.net/index.php
Is it not possible for this group to expand into other fields? Every class gets "boring" eventually, and so constant additions and changes to the rules and classes needs to be done to keep it vibrant.
My aim is to have several robots and to take them over to Seattle one day... Imagine winning one of those comps!
Mark
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