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Spockie-Tech
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Joined: 31 May 2004
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Location: Melbourne, Australia
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If I remember correctly, this was one of the fights that I growled about the judges decision a lot.
El Bravo was still barely moving at the end, but could only limp around in slow circles, which in any competition in the world would count as being immobilised. Controlled non-circular motion generally being the requirement for "still alive". - I notice in one of the recent marayong fights Jeff was doing a great job of keeping El Bravo moving in non-circular motions with just one side of the drive working. This sort of driving is what is required to be counted as still alive.
I guess the problem discussed in this thread was caused by allowing Pinscher to take El Bravo's place after he forfeited his place in the final due to not being able to repair the damage in time. A noble gesture on jeffs part, but the resulting final battle was then not really run according to the rules, which is what caused the problem George referred to in the Keroo's tables.
If El-Bravo was judged to have won the prior fight (and not Pinscher - thus missing out on the "win" point), but El-Bravo then forfeited, then Minimower should have won the final by default since his scheduled opponent was a no-show. Placing a judged-losing bot from the previous round in the winning bots place is what caused the discrepancy. Of course no-one would have wanted to see the final round being a bye, so I can understand why it was done.
It does however illustrate the sort of problems caused when you fail to stick to the rules and "adjust things on the fly" to keep the show interesting. Its something that all Event Operators need to keep in mind. If you are running a friendly back-yard event between friends and keeping the results to yourselves, then its OK to fiddle the structure a bit. If however, you are running a semi-serious competition with interstate entrants or plan on publishing the results for all to see, then its much better to stick to the letter of the law or risk the possibility of disputes arising when rankings and points are assigned.
(if George feels that this discussion has no particular value and no-one else objects, then I can delete the thread.. I think it has some value in demonstrating why fudging the brackets shouldnt be done, but wont keep it here just based on my opinion - Does anyone else think it should be left online ?) _________________ Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people
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