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dyrodium
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Laughing Tis ok. Thanks for the comments!
I wish I had more time for detailed mixing but I only just finished that friday, and school is taking away all my spare music time. The final "tweaking" litteraly takes hours, which I don't have. Sad
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Yep, thats why I decided not to get into writing music.. Rolling Eyes

I have had a few tinkers and have about 3 x 3/4 finished tracks, but to finalise them to a point where I'd be happy with them requires too much time for not enough return.

But, like engineering, its the attention to detail that makes the difference between a mish mash of parts glued and cable tied together any way they will fit vs a carefully thought out, precisely machined, balanced and well functioning machine.

Which is why I asked what destination you had in mind for your tracks.

If you want to head towards eventually producing something that is playable on a 10 Kilowatt PA system to hundreds or thousands of people without sounding like crap, then you need to make sure you learn how to build the foundations in a solid way so that when you start to layer on the detail, it doesnt all mush together.

Just like Robot Engineering. If you want to play with the dangerous bots and survive, you cant start by just screwing together some bits of wood and metal any old how and figure it out as you go. You need to think about balance (if I put the weapon motor here, then the batteries need to go here to balance it so it drives properly etc), weight budgets, battery capacity vs power usage etc.

If you're building a bot to hoon around the carpark and beat up a leggo car, its a lot easier

Same with music. If you want to eventually reach the point where your creations are professional sounding, then you *need* to pay attention to all those little time consuming details, or you will be forever frustrated trying to patch up problems caused by fundamental design errors.

If however, you just want to make a few tunes to play on your home stereo and give to your friends or play as backing to a robot fight through a boom box, then you can get away with being a lot more "casual" in the design/engineering phase of your music.

Think of sound design in the same way you would metalwork, and envisage the final product as either a ghetto-bot, or a carefully engineered mechanical symphony, and decide if you have the motivation and time to design a symphony, or whether you just want to bang out a few tunes on the 'ol gitar round the campfire. Laughing
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Too true! Very Happy
Whilst I'd love to have my song blasted through a massive PA to thousands of fans, it might not be happening too soon. And my song never did get played at robowars did it due to the sound problems! Sad
heh the robot analogy is good. Almost as good (and very annoying) as my dads *hsc robot analogy*. Where upon "doing your HSC is a lot like building a combat robot, you can do nothing until the week before the *competition* and then spend all day and night building and end up with a crap one, or spend a little time here and there over a long period of time, with lots of *testing* and practice, and end up with something worth competing against the rest of the state with. Laughing

Needless to say, I hate him for making that up seeing as it's so damn trueXD
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My taste in music is rather strange.

I can enjoy music ranging from tribal to the KLF.

But when I just want to "dream away" I'll play Klaus Schulzes "Time Wind".

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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ff_AXVlo9U

A singing Telsa coil paying a heap of Nintendo game tunes Smile I love it, sounds just like my old 8-bit gameboy after I left it out in the rain one night Razz
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now thats real electronic music Shocked

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Nice find Aaron, thats sweet. I want one!
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They should have played some dramatic Classical music on it.

Can you imagine "Toccata" being played on it by a Count Dracula type character on it with some thunder to accompany ? Twisted Evil
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You mean like this one Brett?? 1812 Overture Very Happy

http://youtube.com/watch?v=WFZrcKnxnio

One of my favs, Weird Science!!

http://youtube.com/watch?v=-gfo0NJkh3A
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Shocked This one tops them all.... The quality of the sounds Shocked


http://youtube.com/watch?v=6tKo_3DzdSU
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Woo, post whore tonight...

http://youtube.com/watch?v=RbSszdEcFdQ Domo Arigato Mr Robot on Bipolar Tesla coils Laughing

http://youtube.com/watch?v=BiUlqecQKUo Sweet

http://youtube.com/watch?v=kjG4nVTKNHo Rock On!

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Close.. but they're not Toccata. Smile

The 1812 Overture is a good piece, but nothing says "Mad Scientist" to me like a big pipe organ and Toccata.

Maybe its just some Sterotype image I picked up out of a movie somewhere, but download a copy from here
http://www.magle.dk/music-forums/23-bach-toccata-fugue-d.html

Turn it up and tell me that doesnt just make you think of some creepy castle with a black and white count playing to thunder and lightning through the windows. Twisted Evil
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BTW, For Retro Arcade game fans, Fire up a copy of MAME and play the game "Gyruss" - That has the rockingest remix of Toccata as a backing track for the game, done in that crunchy 80's PCM Synth sound.. Wink
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Look for Toy Dollz, they did a very good guitar version of Toccata.

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Toy Dollz sound much better when they dont sing.. Thats some pretty good guitar work there alright. Cool

It sounds like Tommy Emanuel - The Journey (about 3x faster) for some reason.
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