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Valen Experienced Roboteer
Joined: 07 Jul 2004
Posts: 4436
Location: Sydney
windows 7 is the windows 98 to the win95 that was vista.
Its level of suck is just low enough to be worthwhile, assuming you cant get XP anymore. IE its probably easier to get that old "magic application" to work in win 7 than under wine ;-> And it wont mean getting a stupidly powerfull computer to run the OS.
I hear there are even versions of windows now that you can install without a GUI for web servers and the like.
(btw Ebox is pretty good, PDC up and running all through point and click in 5 minutes, another 5 to join machines onto its domains. roaming profiles everything out of the box. now I need to have a look at the bundled groupware stuff.) _________________ Mechanical engineers build weapons, civil engineers build targets
Mon May 03, 2010 2:02 pm
Spockie-Tech Site Admin
Joined: 31 May 2004
Posts: 3160
Location: Melbourne, Australia
quote:Originally posted by Valen:
I hear there are even versions of
windows
now that you can install
without a GUI
for web servers and the like.
Isnt that kind of like saying "Dehydrated Water" ?
On that note...
For those of you who think computer should be white, shiny and have no idea how you could use one without a mouse, this is great reading on just what those mysterious black boxes with wiriting in them are actually for....
http://dansdata.com/gz102.htm _________________ Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people
Mon May 03, 2010 5:50 pm
Valen Experienced Roboteer
Joined: 07 Jul 2004
Posts: 4436
Location: Sydney
Actually it looks like the "power shell" has lifted a number of useful things from bash.
now when I type ls at the windows command prompt I don't look like a fool lol ;-> _________________ Mechanical engineers build weapons, civil engineers build targets
Mon May 03, 2010 11:32 pm
Knightrous Site Admin
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Posts: 8511
Location: NSW
quote:Originally posted by Valen:
now when I type ls at the windows command prompt I don't look like a fool lol ;->
Joined: 30 Sep 2006
Posts: 673
Location: Perth, Western Australia
quote:Originally posted by Valen:
now when I type ls at the windows command prompt I don't look like a fool lol ;->
I only used linux for a year or so, and I'm still guilty of doing this more often than not _________________ They say that he crossed the fine line, from insanity to genius.
Tue May 04, 2010 1:43 pm
Knightrous Site Admin
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Posts: 8511
Location: NSW
Gnome-Shell
Read a few articles on the intawebs today that mentioned the Gnome-Shell window manager which will be released with Gnome 3.0 in the future. I then read a few articles about Gnome-Shell and became rather curious about it.
A quick "sudo apt-get install gnome-shell" in terminal followed by "gnome-shell --replace" and it was up and running (less then 2mins total). First impressions was "Wow" followed by "Where is everything....". A few minutes of looking around and randomly clicking things I found a few things. Looked a little complicated and confusing, but rather sweet at the same time.
Went to lunch, came back and quickly googled up some more on Gnome-Shell and found this little article http://www.madforubuntu.com/apps-and-tools/my-glimpse-at-gnome-shell/ explaining more about it. After reading the article and seeing some of the features, things just really clicked.
I've been using it for around 30mins now and find it good enough to keep using on my work pc as the default windows manager. I can find I can flick through a lot of stuff faster now without clicking so many menus like my old gnome session. Pretty impressed for something that is still in the realm of alpha. Definately more cooler then the widgets in Plasma or playing with the effects in Compiz...
Alright, I'm off to learn how to change the code in the menu system to remove the "recent documents" section.... _________________ https://www.halfdonethings.com/
Joined: 27 Jun 2004
Posts: 1105
Location: SunshineCoast
I'm tempted to go back to ubuntu and VMWARE windows stuff. mmm _________________ Imagination is more important than knowledge. Knowledge is limited. Imagination encircles the world.
Albert Einstein.
Wed Sep 15, 2010 5:43 pm
Knightrous Site Admin
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Posts: 8511
Location: NSW
quote:Originally posted by assassin:
I'm tempted to go back to ubuntu and VMWARE windows stuff. mmm
Don't worry about VMWare and all it's shinanigans, just use virtualbox. It's in the repositories, when you get a kernal update, it will tell you if you need to re-compile the virtualbox kernal, and it's as simple as "sudo /etc/init.d/vboxdrv setup" and it's compiles by itself. _________________ https://www.halfdonethings.com/
Wed Sep 15, 2010 6:09 pm
Spockie-Tech Site Admin
Joined: 31 May 2004
Posts: 3160
Location: Melbourne, Australia
Seamless mode is pretty nice too.. I just changed another clients first machine over to Linux. (after yet another Windows Virus broke his machine god knows how - hes pretty careful about opening things and had up-to-date antivirus etc).
He still needed a couple of old windows-specific programs (Engine/Racing simulators/calculators), so I virtualised his windows and set it up inside VirtualBox.. He was chuffed to see Windows "in a box where it belongs" (in his words). _________________ Great minds discuss ideas. Average minds discuss events. Small minds discuss people
Wed Sep 15, 2010 10:12 pm
Knightrous Site Admin
Joined: 15 Jun 2004
Posts: 8511
Location: NSW
The last few days I've been tinkering with setting up a near-bare-metal virtualisation configuration for my laptop. I started playing with TinyCore, a super lightweight linux OS. I got it working lastnight on my test laptop after having some Xorg issues.
Eventually I'd like to set this up over my entire home network with the VM's stored on a fileserver (dependant on performance). That way I can run any operating system, from any computer in the house. _________________ https://www.halfdonethings.com/
I've yet to fiddle with non-ose, but it's next on my list, along with how I will go with nvidia drivers in TC for my main PC.
The laptop is an old Toshiba Tecra A3, 1.5Ghz Celeron with 1GB RAM. It just runs both virtual machines at once, but isn't horrible considering the specs of the system. I'll put more ram into it soon and see if it works any better with a bit more head room (I gave both VM's 400MB RAM each).
I could look at VMWare Player, but I'm honestly really happy with VirtualBox. I've found it a lot less hassle then VMWare over my course of time playing with VM's in a home environment. _________________ https://www.halfdonethings.com/
multiple people running one VM would be a "bad thing" TM
you can kind of do that if disk writes are disabled.
As soon as you have writes going to seperate disk images etc, then its really multiple PC's isnt it ;-P _________________ Mechanical engineers build weapons, civil engineers build targets
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